Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda Camillo » 04/01/2013, 11:52

elgiovo ha scritto:
gatsu ha scritto:Ok...I'll write in English here...


Furthermore, this was correct (the 'here' position). English is not Italian.
Personally, I use this general rule to remember the order of complements:

S.V.O.M.P.T.

meaning Subject --> Verb --> Object --> Manner --> Place --> Time.

Interesting and new to me.
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda elgiovo » 04/01/2013, 14:39

Interesting and new to me.


Nice, isn't it? :D

Anyway, it doesn't hold for complex sentences. See this example
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda gatsu » 08/01/2013, 20:46

Nice to see a place where italian people write in English and, above all, where users help to improve !!! :smt023
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda DavideGenova » 30/01/2013, 23:00

elgiovo ha scritto:
gatsu ha scritto:Ok...I'll write in English here...


Furthermore, this was correct (the 'here' position). English is not Italian.
Personally, I use this general rule to remember the order of complements:

S.V.O.M.P.T.

meaning Subject --> Verb --> Object --> Manner --> Place --> Time.

Here I'll write in English is not unused in modern colloquial English, but, as elgiovo points out, that is not the normal word order. Early modern English would even have inverted the subject-verb order if an averb or complement preceded the verb: here will I write...
@gatsu: I am not sure what you meant by comprehensive, but, if that may be useful to you, comprehensive means esauriente. Comprensibile is understandable.
Forgive me if I give any appearance of being pedantic: I would just like to give my pennyworth in one of the few areas around here I can dare to say anything, given the low level of my mathematical competence...
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda vict85 » 31/01/2013, 00:39

Mathematicians use a fairly simple and standardized English. I think you could understand it even without being able to pass the PET. However, at the beginning, you should acquaint yourself with it.
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda kobeilprofeta » 13/02/2013, 21:19

I speak and understand a little english. How to learn to study in english? Where should I begin?
The max that I've ever read is a 30 pages-book with a lot of pictures...
I think that you've already notice my english level...
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda vict85 » 13/02/2013, 21:41

You rarely study more than 30 page in a row. Anyway, formulas are not in english.
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda Zero87 » 14/02/2013, 13:09

kobeilprofeta ha scritto:How to learn to study in english? Where should I begin?

Come here friend! :-D
Try to speak - ehm... write - english with us. 8-)
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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda Emar » 21/02/2013, 11:26

kobeilprofeta ha scritto:The max that I've ever read is a 30 pages-book with a lot of pictures...

According to my experience I think that reading a math book is a lot easier than a romance or a story. As vict85 wrote, the english in these books is really simple and standardized. You have short paragraphs and then a formula that helps you to understand the previous explanation.

With english books you stay more focused on concepts.

kobeilprofeta ha scritto:I speak and understand a little english. How to learn to study in english? Where should I begin?


I think you have to start to open a math textbook and start reading :-D

Maybe reading a book on a semi-known topic will be useful. In that way you can start reading focusing only on english (when you already know that part of theory) and then, when you move into more complicated topics, start to focus also on concepts. For example now I'm reading "Calculus on Manifolds" by M. Spivak. It's nice because the first 2 chapters are about topics that I already know, and I can use them to understand the author style, and then I will see new things and I will have to focus on concepts.

I hope I was able to explain myself and I did not made too many mistakes.

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Re: Studiare su testi inglesi

Messaggioda onlyReferee » 24/08/2013, 20:43

Well, during this first academic year (I study Computer Science at Venice University) I've attended all courses in English. I admit that obviously Italian teachers' English explanations are quite easier to understand than foreign people's ones.
However I experienced that it's hard to take notes in Italian as soon as a person is speaking in English. Therefore I think I'll try to write them directly in English.
I'm convinced that in fact the popularity of this language is due to its capability of being at the same time clear and syntetic. It is normal, particulary at the first, that you have to think more for expressing a concept in a different language but with more and more daily exercise it becomes a routine for you :D .
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